Two governments and economies – Peace – Separation

A good friend called me yesterday and asked if I had received any more revelation on the market or America given the fiscal cliff talks and the various prophecies he has read about turbulence next year.  I said no, I still see the market working its way up in the 14,000s to about 15,000, and as it approaches 15,000 there will a sharp, steep drop like a knife cutting into the market.  I can only vaguely see to which point it will drop, perhaps in the 12,000 range.  And that I wasn’t too worried about the fiscal cliff talks because I hadn’t received anything from the Lord, but that doesn’t mean just because I haven’t heard or seen anything that something viewed by many as negative won’t happen.

Given his question, I inquired of the Lord whether there was anything else He wanted me to share since it’s been a while since I’ve shared anything publicly.  He said calmly and intimately:

“There are those who put their trust in Obama.  There are those who think he is up to no good.  Neither is right.  He is not God, is he?  Pray for your President, pray for America, and go about your business.  Those who know their God, those who know their Savior, those who trust in nothing other, Peace be with them.”

I will add as a footnote that there is increased external turbulence in my life.  I have been reading Psalms the last few weeks and drawn into a deeper understanding of how David had peace and complete trust in God His Savior despite King Saul persecuting him and seeking to kill him.  In the midst of heaving waves around, I have wanted to have an attitude like David, or like Jesus sleeping in the boat during the wild storm.  Those who know me are surprised I don’t seem to be bothered by all that is going on but have peace and calm.  I share this because I believe peace in the midst of tribulations relates to what the Lord said.  If you trust only in Him, as David did, despite all the oppressions and injustices in your life, you can sleep in the boat with peace during a wicked storm.  You can rest fully confident in Him that eventually He will make your enemies (which can be situations and not specific people) your footstool.  We are seated in Him in the heavenlies, and being seated next to Jesus Christ is a place of authority and rest.

Yes, I’m expecting much turbulence in these end times, Jesus said it would happen.  However, our supernatural rest and peace should rise above the churning seas.  I believe marvelous miracles will happen for those, as the Lord says, trust only in Him as their Deliverer from oppressive or evil situations.  We must not place trust in America’s government or even in our current place of employment.  We are to be His ambassadors of truth, light and love and we are to bless.  It is not to be vica-verse where we depend on the world’s systems and governments to bless us.

His Kingdom government and economy is separate from the world’s government and economy.  There is a separation of people’s allegiances going on.  On September 14, 2012 He spoke briefly but very profoundly if you perceive its implications, “I am shaking that which is not founded on Me.  I am blessing that which is founded on me.  There is a separation.  Do not be afraid!”  I wrote in my comment, “There is a separation going on in the world.  A separation.  There are spiritual Goshens present as well.”  In our rest, peace and trust only in Him and nothing else is the seat (metaphor intended) of our authority.  Have patience until He makes your enemies – His enemies – your footstool.  I have trust He will at the appointed time. 

Update as of February 1, 2013 10:30am: 
The January 3, 2011 “Dow to 14,000” prophecy was fulfilled today, the DOW reached 14,000. See: http://hearthelord.blogspot.com/2011/01/dow-to-14000-rich-man.html 

Please understand that when this prophecy was given about two years ago, the Dow had closed at 11,577.  Also, it had not broken above 11,600 since before the crash in 2008.   Throughout 2011 and 2012, there were numerous naysayers predicting collapse of America’s economy into another recession or depression.  There were those predicting an unraveling of the world’s global economy.  Neither happened.  And the Dow did chug, chug, chug along like that little engine that could.  It rose an impressive 21% in just two years, just like the Lord said on January 3, 2011, “Watch 14,000. Not soon, longer than a year. But that little blue engine with a noble heart chugged, chugged, chugged on. So no catastrophic crashes, no flash floods in the market.”

Where from here?  On towards 15,000.  See my August 21, 2012 tweet, “A few days ago saw in a vision DOW going to 15K after 14K. As approached 15K, sharp drop like a knife to ~12K. Saw same vision again today.”

I need to add that based on current, somewhat fuzzy visions I have of the Dow after it approaches 15,000 (please know it may not reach 15,000 but will be close), it will drop to the 13,000s and maybe not to the 12,000s.  I don’t have clarity on the extent of the drop.  However, it will be a sharp and strong correction. 

Update as of April 15, 2013 11:30 am: 
I realize I was not clear in saying the DOW may correct into the 13,000s rather than into the 12,000s.  What I saw in the initial 2 repetitive visions 8 months ago in August 2012 (when the DOW was about 13,300) was a sharp correction into the 12,000s after the DOW approaches 15,000.  But later, after prayer, my understanding was it may correct into the low 13,000s instead, thus below 13,500.  The DOW rose to within 113 points of 15,000 a few days ago on April 11, 2013.  Based on the two August 2012 visions of the DOW approaching 15,000 and then sharply correcting, the correction might happen any day now.  Of course, the DOW may level out for a couple weeks before it sharply corrects, I do not know.  My gut feel based on the original repetitive visions in August 2012 and subsequent prayer the last few months (please know this part is not prophecy but my gut feel after prayer) is the DOW will correct to the range of 12,800 to 13,400. 

Update as of July 31, 2013 1:00 pm:

The knife-life drop in the stock market which I saw and anticipated did not happen. So I believe the vision I saw was not from the Lord but from my imagination. We all have imagination. Differentiating between seeing through the filter of our imagination and seeing what the Lord sees through the pure vision from His Spirit takes spiritual sensitivity and discernment. Unless we are perfect, we make mistakes as I did. Making a mistake is an opportunity to do what is more important: seeking first intimacy with Him and love of others, which is His kingdom. In the clarity and quiet stillness of His Spirit, we will see, hear, and understand all He wants us to know and move beyond mistakes.

A release of increased Power

“I said, “In 2012 the Liberty bell will sound ‘Dagon has fallen!’”

“I said watch as my sons and daughters come out in a mighty rush from their caves where they have been praying, praying, praying.  They will run, run, run in joy in My power that I give them.

“Now I say this will be one of the best years of your lives.  A power will come on you that you do not recognize.  You know it is I but you have not felt this power before.  You will have self-control.  You will not run after this and that.  You will say “no” to temptation.  You will say “yes” to charity, to helping the downtrodden.  You will raise your hands and loving thunder will answer.  My power will abide on you.  You will not walk too fast or too slow in Me, credit Eagle in this revelation.  It is time, as I have been telling Eagle.  The fullness of time as I am telling many others.  Ding Dong the witch is dead!  The wicked witch is dead!  Ding Dong, it is time, as Eagle has revealed!  You have stood and defied her.  You have stood and defied Dagon.  Your prayers have turned mountains to mere chalk.  You will witness a tsunami of Me answering your prayers.

“You have learned to stand.  Not run ahead or fall behind Me.  You have learned to receive My power on high on you.  When you hearken to Me and listen, when you wait on Me, when you don’t seek for yourself but seek intimacy in Me, I will answer you this year with My increased power.  You have learned.  You have gone through the refining fire.  Share My presence freely with others.  Freely you have received, freely give.”

Related prophecies:

http://hearthelord.blogspot.com/2011/10/in-2012-liberty-bell-will-sound-dagon.html (Aug 2011)

My people have been in caves and shadows and dark closets praying, praying, praying. No one sees them. They have been hidden for this time. Oh, I will be shaking even my church and those who have been last will be first. Watch the shackles come off! Watch your religious robes tear and split and fall off so you can run, run, run in my Spirit and my glory can arise…. I have many kings and queens in caves and shadows and dark closets praying, praying, praying. They are about to spread their wings like Monarch butterflies and fly, fly, fly! Such glorious wings with splendid colors and brilliance and power! Watch the true power arise!

http://hearthelord.blogspot.com/2011/10/watch-rush-as-they-come-out-as-royal.html (Oct 2011)

My princes and princesses are in caves, like David.  Watch the rush as they come out as a royal priesthood, walking in My Spirit and freedom, prophesying and healing in My Son’s name.  The earth has shaken and will shake again as the glory and joy of My sons and daughters sweep over the nations like fresh waters on dry lands. 

About America's leadership

I thought it important to summarize several prophecies about America's leadership that are relevant to the current election.  Please note the Liberty Bell and “Dagon has fallen” prophecy happened in August 2011 well before Governor Romney was one of the two lead presidential candidates in this year's election.  Prophecies that occur in a season when the exact opposite appears to be happening carry additional weight with me.

http://hearthelord.blogspot.com/2012/06/i-see.html

June 21, 2012 Excerpt:

I see the statue of Dagon crumbling like very old plaster and breaking into small pieces into rubble on the floor. This statue represents that American political leadership that has set itself up against the Spirit of God.

I see presidential candidate Mitt Romney, not a Christian, on whom the Spirit of God rests. He will yield to and follow the Spirit of God more sensitively than many who call themselves Christians. I see this bothering Christians.

http://hearthelord.blogspot.com/2011/10/in-2012-liberty-bell-will-sound-dagon.html

August 29, 2011 Excerpt:

“In 2012 the Liberty Bell will sound ‘Dagon has fallen.’ In 2012 the Liberty Bell will sound ‘Dagon has fallen.’

“I will put my Spirit on the leader I choose who humbles himself before Me. Even if the youth show up at the polls, which they will not because they are distracted running after this and that, Dagon cannot be erected.”

http://hearthelord.blogspot.com/2010/09/american-political-and-business-leaders.html

September 16, 2010 Excerpt:

“It is not all America," says the Lord, “But I am judging America’s leaders. Those who are arrogant, those who are lofty and exalt themselves above Me shall be humbled. Yes I have sent signs and warnings. But have not my own children prospered in this period? Have they not had sufficient? Would I punish my children and those who turn to Me and rely on Me? Judge correctly yourselves! Would I not be a foolish God to reject those I love? Those who love me? Judge correctly yourselves! I am shifting and shaking and changing the status quo, just as I said. First the political leaders. Then the business leaders.”

http://hearthelord.blogspot.com/2010_04_01_archive.html

April 1, 2010 Excerpt:

“The USA shall defy the sovereign debt crises. The USA shall be immune from the contagion.”

“The tea partiers are coming over on the Mayflower. They are carrying May flowers of peace, flowers of my Prince of Peace. They shall tip and topple established ways through flowers of Peace…  A movement of change.”

I See

I see the statue of Dagon crumbling like very old plaster and breaking into small pieces into rubble on the floor. This statue represents that American political leadership that has set itself up against the Spirit of God.

I see presidential candidate Mitt Romney, not a Christian, on whom the Spirit of God rests. He will yield to and follow the Spirit of God more sensitively than many who call themselves Christians. I see this bothering Christians.

I see the institutions of man, the churches built on the thoughts and traditions of men, one with a preacher giving a speech, another with a priest blessing with his hand. I see a small number of those in the pews, one by one, quietly leaving by climbing through open windows to each side.

I see a huge spiritual movement, a swelling, not coming from the religious institutions of men, not coming from the Christian and Catholic institutional churches of men. I see a huge spiritual movement swelling from those who meditate, those who do yoga, those who chant, those who see visions and dream dreams, those who thirst for the clean waters of God, those who want to draw closer and closer to Him. I see that as they peer deeply into the things of God they will see Jesus, they will meet Jesus face to face. This is a spiritual matter and a heart matter, not a head matter. It is why they will meet Jesus because He will reveal Himself to them and not withhold.

I see a great gathering of different spiritual backgrounds where they talk from the heart and from the spirit and not from the head because Jesus is becoming their head. They are learning to hear the mind of Christ. They are learning to follow the whisper of Christ. They are coming out of religious captivity and spiritual bondage to the doctrines and institutions of men and finding freedom in Christ whom they will discover more and more. I see this bothering Christians.

I see relaxing drunkenness in this spiritual place of His rich presence where all is provided for with light labor and much rest. I see audacious, trusting prayers being answered, prayers not only for physical healing but also for financial healing. I see many people being folded into the big (in an expansive way) and loving arms of Abba Father. I see all this for those who dare to depart from the thoughts and traditions and institutions of men, like David who turned away from his brothers and their thoughts. They will instead go directly to the source of their delight and healing. I see this all happening without rudeness and rejection of people but rather rejection of ideas. This huge spiritual movement will be a departure from the thoughts and traditions and institutions of men while still loving brothers who yield to traditions of men.

Clarification: I do see the Spirit of God resting on Mitt Romney, much as the Spirit rested on some political leaders in the Old Testament. This may be part of the time or all the time, I don’t know, but the resting on and his yielding to the Lord will be significant. Please read carefully this is a resting on and not an abiding in, I do not have visibility into the latter.

For previous prophesies on Dagon falling see:

http://hearthelord.blogspot.com/2011/10/in-2012-liberty-bell-will-sound-dagon.html

http://hearthelord.blogspot.com/2012/04/refining-fire-this-year.html

It’s interesting I haven’t read the prophecy “In 2012 the Liberty Bell will sound ‘Dagon has fallen’” in a couple months.  I didn’t remember He said in August 2011, “I will put my Spirit on the leader I choose who humbles himself before Me.”  So it is interesting what I saw today.

Update as of July 7, 2012:
A couple days ago I saw in a short vision a small white dove of the Lord resting on Romney’s left shoulder. I saw a greyish tan dove like a mourning dove resting on Obama’s right shoulder. The two leaders looked at each other. To some it might look as the doves have to do with skin color, which is not at all true. The doves have to do with responding to the peace and instructions of the Lord. One response will be less muddied and more pure than the other.

We are going to see the Lord do surprising things through Mormons. It’s humbled me to not judge but let God be God. Christians can become worldly in their thinking and desires and not respond well to God. Those who don’t yet accept Jesus as Messiah and as God who descended into flesh can soften and respond to the promptings of God’s Spirit. Humans change. God never changes. The Father is on the throne, meaning He has all power and kindness, and is looking for those who respond to Him and His Son. Jesus said, "What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life… This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him,” and “All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away” John 6:62 - 6:65 and 6:37 (NIV).

Update as of November 9, 2012:

A good friend, Eagle, sent me the following on Oct 26:

“I see presidential candidate Mitt Romney, not a Christian, on whom the Spirit of God rests. He will yield to and follow the Spirit of God more sensitively than many who call themselves Christians. I see this bothering Christians.”

Read this little story. I follow politics intensively and just have zero doubt that God’s hand is upon Mitt Romney.

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/10/25/white-house-insider-mitt-romneys-quiet-prayer-amidst-the-sound-of-thunder/

At the presidential election, however, over 6 million self-professed evangelical Christians voted for President Obama and not Governor Romney.  Had they voted for President Romney, he would have won.  See the prophetic vision, “I see presidential candidate Mitt Romney, not a Christian, on whom the Spirit of God rests. He will yield to and follow the Spirit of God more sensitively than many who call themselves Christians. I see this bothering Christians.”

http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/more-than-6-million-self-described-evangelicals-voted-for-obama-why-what-else-do-the-exit-polls-tell-us-about-how-christians-voted/

Soros

I received this word the very end of March and was not going to post it because it was so unusual.  Because of the Dagon being toppled word which, after speaking with a friend today, may mean the Lord is bringing down some political systems or political agendas this year in America, I thought I would post.

“Soros, Soros, will you continue to lift your head above the Most High?  Will you break the back of fellow citizens and neighbors?  Will you break the spines of countries?  Are you so surprised money and intrigue could do such a thing?

“I have left wealth and power and position in your hands and what have you done?  Are you like a king who prospers My people?  No!  You are like the heartless who rule with an iron glove and butter smiles.  Repent!  Or your length of days will be cut short for the sake of My people.  I see their suffering from your whims and fantasies.  You are like the Wizard of Oz pulling pulleys behind the curtain.  Repent!  Or your days will be cut short by natural cause.  I say this so you know that I, the Lord, have spoken and not man.  Repent and see My Son and I will receive you after your length of days.  There is time for you to change your heart, but not much time if you do not change.”

Refining Fire & This Year

“Shake up! Shake up! I have said Dagon will fall this year. 

“There has been much that has raised its head against Me. Little gods set on pedestals. But they will topple and fall from their thrones of ‘infallibility’. Because they are not.

“Who can speak for Me? Could Job? Could his friends? Take care how you judge inside and outside what is Mine. Is not all Mine? I will perplex even the church. Those who think they know will be scratching their heads. Then they will see like my servant Job. Even you, Sierra. How muddy, muddy are the sights of the prophets. Don’t you realize Elijah saw more clearly in his cave? Or David in his caves? If you are not willing to take up your cross how can you see? But My yoke is light when I rest My yoke on your shoulders. Know what it means that it pleased Me for My Son to be crushed and bruised so you might find true life in Me. Separate yourself from worldliness and lusts and discover My ways because they are not your ways. Do I not purify like a refiner’s fire to separate the gold from the dross, the wheat from the chaff so that your joy in Me may be released and Me in you?

“You will see My Kingdom where all comes from Me, I rain on the righteous and unrighteous alike. Is my arm too short to save? Did Saul kick and kick and kick against Me until I revealed Myself to Him? Can I not save the greatest sinner? Or the lesser sinner? Those who do not know they need to be saved from their ways do not see My ways. They are muddy. So fire is a friend, a lamp that lights a path for your heart and burns up that which held you because you held it.

“You will marvel at what I topple, who I draw to Myself, for judgment begins in My house. I came and baptized with fire and how My fire is bright and hot! The church seeks My power of fire but its refinement shall be accomplished until I am in all and through all. Have you not read “all in all”? What is “all”? Is not “all” mine? Scratch your head. Or see like Job. 

“Rejoice you are in the fire and seeing gold shine through in you. I have called, and they shall be My people and I shall be their God. Fruit upon fruit upon fruit. My Son the first fruit. Other fruits bursting forth in Him. Then more fruit. Life upon life upon life. The world and all that was and is and is to come is Mine. Is there anything not Mine? Why do you scratch your head? Can I not burn away the dross and chaff and make gold and wheat in abundance? Have I not said it will be? Consider this.

“Let me tell you this Easter. You who are living sacrifices, who yield your bodies and hearts to Me will experience the wings of Easter. The dove of peace. I will rest like feathers on your shoulders. Your kiss and embrace will be soaked with kindness for the lost and hurting. You will be a balm to others, a soothing aroma. I will be your Father in a way that will bring sweet tears to your eyes. This will be one of your best years ever for My sake. Do not doubt these words. He who submits to fire and its purposes will reveal shining gold. My fire is ablaze. This will be one of the best years of your life because you have overcome the world and seek to overcome. You have let Me burn your dross, and more, and more. The world has not been able to hold onto you, although it will try again. So smile and be glad! Yes, I am your Good Father! And this is one of the best years of your life! Eat the feast! Drink the wine! And share with your neighbors!"

Most of today I have been meditating, studying and reading the Bible. After I received the above – over which I spent much time in prayer – I would like to share a related verse, Hebrews 9:14, which will paraphrase: The blood of Jesus Christ – the final, perfect and only High Priest – purifies our conscience from worldliness and vain activities so we may follow and serve the living God. It is the shed blood of Jesus, and His living Spirit poured out on us, that supernaturally cleanses and refines our consciences so we may live for Him and love.